Azmodan Kijur wrote:
Sad to see the RD forums fall over such a thing. For those that feel that Dawkins himself is not aware of the issue, he posted to the RD forum (clearly siding with the asshat Josh):
Surely there has to be something wrong with people who can resort to such over-the-top language, over-reacting so spectacularly to something so trivial. Even some of those with more temperate language are responding to the proposed changes in a way that is little short of hysterical. Was there ever such conservatism, such reactionary aversion to change, such vicious language in defence of a comfortable status quo? What is the underlying agenda of these people? How can anybody feel that strongly about something so small? Have we stumbled on some dark, territorial atavism? Have private fiefdoms been unwittingly trampled?
Be that as it may, what this remarkable bile suggests to me is that there is something rotten in the Internet culture that can vent it. If I ever had any doubts that RD.net needs to change, and rid itself of this particular aspect of Internet culture, they are dispelled by this episode.
If you are one of those who have dealt out such ludicrously hyperbolic animosity, you know who should receive your private apology. And if you are one of those who are as disgusted by it as I am, you know where to send your warm letter of support.
This piece of comment from Richard Dawkins himself actually proofs that he is indeed not aware of the issue
As i've said in other posts: Richard Dawkins is not familiar with "internet community forum"-stuff. He did not grow up with it.
so again, this is NOT the fault of Richard Dawkins, but it is the fault of those who are the connectors
between Richard Dawkins and the forum community, in this case: Josh Timonen
Richard Dawkins -> Josh Timonen -> Community
Josh Timonen has "killed" the community and the communtiy contacts both Josh Timonen and Richard Dawkins.
Community -> Josh Timonen, this communication is natural correct.
Community -> Richard Dawkins, here we have a "lost in translation" issue, since Richard Dawkins will not understand what's going on in the eyes of this Internet Community because he has never been part of such a thing, it is something that we
grew up with, not Richard Dawkins.
The message from Richard Dawkins is therefore a reaction to the community as if it is a real-life community, (the kind of communities that Richard Dawkins has grew up with ).
But it's not, it's different, it all works differently, the relations in a online community are much different.
Let the following be very clear:
An online community is alive through the internet
, through the network
. Now this network, this connection, has been completely cut by Josh Timonen, killing the vains of this online community, and the result of that is "rage".
Richard Dawkins is not at all familiar with "online communities".
Instead, Richard Dawkins is familiar with off line and real life communities. In these communities, if you cut down the internet connection, nothing much happens. It's
something so trivial
as Richard Dawkins himself calls it.
What he does not realize is, that cutting the network connection of an online community, is the same as abruptly stopping any meetings of real life
communities + blocking all the physical mailings between the members of this community.
I bet, that if something like that would happen to a real life community, then Richard Dawkins would not at all call it "something so trivial".
That's what's going on here.
Richard Dawkins is 69 years old guys. You can not (!) blame him for not knowing what the hell is going on in this particular problem.
If you do so ( willow ) then you are just abusing this situation to express your "hate" against a person you not seem to like.
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